The 2008 Vibram Open course used the Elements pin, but the tee was moved back about 70 feet. This year, there are plans to move the tee back another 100+ feet to the dam - about even with the hole 9 pin. Now the birdie will require a good placement drive and a serious pump on the second shot as there is a 40+ foot rise in elevation to the base of the castle. Drive too big and your deuce could turn into a bogey, as Ron Turner can attest.